How Bad Was the Signal Fiasco?

By now you’ve undoubtedly heard the basics: Last Monday, Atlantic editor Jeffrey Goldberg reported that for several days (March 11-15) he had a connection with Trump’s National Security Adviser Mike Waltz over the private messaging service Signal.

  • On March 11 Goldberg received a Signal connection request from Waltz. He was puzzled and doubted its authenticity, but he accepted.
  • On March 13 he was invited to join the “Houthi PC small group”, a chat that eventually included Vice President Vance, several members of the Trump cabinet, and a variety of other high-ranking members of the administration. Waltz described the group as a “principles [sic] group for coordination on Houthis, particularly for over the next 72 hours”. (Goldberg explains: “The term principals committee generally refers to a group of the senior-most national-security officials, including the secretaries of defense, state, and the treasury, as well as the director of the CIA.”)
  • On March 14, members of the group (who had apparently received a classified communication Goldberg did not get) began discussing whether to attack the Houthi rebels in Yemen, who have been shooting missiles at ships in the Red Sea. Vance wanted to delay the attack for a month, Defense Secretary Hegseth was for launching it immediately, and some others ambivalent. Vance yields, texting to Hegseth: “if you think we should do it let’s go”. (Strangely, President Trump was not on the chat and apparently did not make the final decision to launch the attack.)
  • On March 15, Hegseth began giving the group a play-by-play of the attack as it was carried out, beginning two hours before the bombs fell. Goldberg summarizes: “the Hegseth post contained operational details of forthcoming strikes on Yemen, including information about targets, weapons the U.S. would be deploying, and attack sequencing.”

Up until he received news reports of explosions in Yemen, Goldberg had not completely believed the chat group was genuine. The previous day,

I was still concerned that this could be a disinformation operation, or a simulation of some sort. And I remained mystified that no one in the group seemed to have noticed my presence. But if it was a hoax, the quality of mimicry and the level of foreign-policy insight were impressive.

After becoming convinced that he had been overhearing an actual Principals meeting discussing highly classified information, Goldberg left the group.

So much is wrong with this series of events that the subsequent public discussion has often gotten confused, starting off talking about one issue before veering off onto another one. So let’s start by listing the various wrongnesses I’ve heard about or noticed.

  • The chat group shouldn’t exist at all. The Signal message chain in question was set up to be deleted after four weeks. This violates the Presidential Records Act and Federal Records Act, which require that require records to be kept of all communication involving official government business.
  • Signal is not an approved channel for discussing classified information. By law and policy, classified information can only be sent over very specific government systems.
  • Signal exchanges can be hacked. The security rules being broken here exist for good reasons, and are not just cumbersome or outdated regulations. The encryption feature in Signal is believed to be crackable by intelligence services of hostile foreign governments like Russia and possibly others. And even if an adversary has not hacked Signal, the cell phones or laptops several participants seem to have used could be compromised by malware.
  • Hegseth’s posts violate the Espionage Act. Apologists for the Trump administration have played legal/verbal games with the term “classified information”. Because Hegseth himself is the classifying authority for information like attack plans, they claim, he was implicitly declassifying it by posting it on Signal. But The Hill reports: “the Espionage Act … doesn’t rely on classification. Instead, it allows prosecution of those who share national defense information, whether intentionally or inadvertently. ‘While you can argue that it wasn’t classified — probably in bad faith — you cannot argue that it was not national defense information,’ said Kel McClanahan, executive director of National Security Counselors, a nonprofit law firm.” Whatever word-games you play, information about an imminent or ongoing attack is precisely the kind of thing the classification system was designed to protect.
  • No one on the chat objected. Back in the days when I had a Top Secret clearance myself, I was occasionally in conversations where an issue was alluded to, and then someone would say: “But we can’t talk about that here.” Everyone on the chat had an obligation to say that, and no one did. (The implication here is that this situation is not unusual. Possibly, highly-classified Signal chats are a regular occurrence in the Trump administration. I have not heard any Trump official address this precise point.)
  • Goldberg should not have been invited to the chat. People tend to focus on this part of the wrongness, but look how far we’ve gotten without mentioning it. The Russians could have been listening, and could have tipped off the Houthis to counter our attack or move what we were targeting. Goldberg is an inconsequential risk by comparison.
  • Hegseth had an obligation to verify that everyone on the chat had appropriate clearances to receive the information he was sending, but he did not. This is a problem even if you overlook the fundamental insecurity of Signal. Even if everyone on the chat had been gathered in a secure location like the Situation Room, attack plans shouldn’t have been shared when an uncleared person (i.e., Goldberg) was present. Protecting defense secrets is Hegseth’s job, not Goldberg’s, so the fault lies with him.
  • Waltz endangered intelligence sources in his after-action report. “The first target – their top missile guy – we had positive ID of him walking into his girlfriend’s building and it’s now collapsed.” So the Houthis know that somebody with a view of the building that day was an American agent. Undoubtedly they are trying to find and kill this person.
  • The attack’s “success” is no excuse. Attorney General Bondi was one of many administration officials making this point: “what we should be talking about is it was a very successful mission”. The best analogy I’ve heard is to drunk driving: The fact that you made it home safely doesn’t excuse it, or justify doing something similar in the future. If you take enough unnecessary risks, you will pay eventually. (BTW: Was the attack a success? Killing people and blowing things up is not an end in itself. The point of the attack was to either incapacitate or intimidate the Houthis so that they’ll stop shooting at ships. We don’t know yet whether the raid achieved that purpose. “The Signal chat reveals no suggestion of a strategic framework — or even the concept of a plan — into which the attack clearly fit.”)

So this is the kind of multi-layer screw-up that is hard to wrap your mind around. (An analogy: Imagine that your 15-year-old daughter is threatening suicide because her uncle has broken off their incestuous relationship after discovering that she’s pregnant. What aspect of the situation do you react to first? What’s the core problem here?)

Responses. One of the adages I heard while growing up was “It takes a big man to admit he’s wrong.” By that standard, there are no big men (or women) in the Trump administration. Across the board, everyone involved or implicated in the meeting has deflected, pointed elsewhere, or outright lied in order to deny responsibility.

Goldberg’s first article was circumspect about what he revealed. He wrote in generalities, like the quote above about “targets, weapons, … and attack sequencing”. Not wanting to damage national security himself, he didn’t spell out any details.

But Goldberg’s caution just made an opening for Hegseth and others to lie about the content of the chat.

I’ve heard how it was characterized. Nobody was texting war plans. And that’s all I have to say about that.

White House apologists took up the “no classified information” talking point. Director of National Intellligence Tulsi Gabbard told the Senate Intelligence Committee

There was no classified material that was shared in that Signal group.

Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt tried to make the whole incident a he-said/she-said issue.

Do you trust the secretary of defense — who was nominated for this role, voted by the United States Senate into this role, who has served in combat, honorably served our nation in uniform — or do you trust Jeffrey Goldberg?

Goldberg’s response was basically: Don’t trust me; trust your eyes and your common sense.

The statements by Hegseth, Gabbard, Ratcliffe, and Trump—combined with the assertions made by numerous administration officials that we are lying about the content of the Signal texts—have led us to believe that people should see the texts in order to reach their own conclusions.

Since there was “no classified information” involved, he had no reason not to publish chunks of the transcript of the chat. Goldberg summarized one section:

This Signal message shows that the U.S. secretary of defense texted a group that included a phone number unknown to him—Goldberg’s cellphone—at 11:44 a.m. This was 31 minutes before the first U.S. warplanes launched, and two hours and one minute before the beginning of a period in which a primary target, the Houthi “Target Terrorist,” was expected to be killed by these American aircraft. If this text had been received by someone hostile to American interests—or someone merely indiscreet, and with access to social media—the Houthis would have had time to prepare for what was meant to be a surprise attack on their strongholds. The consequences for American pilots could have been catastrophic.

The release of the transcript should (but won’t) put an end to the attempts to dodge responsibility by vilifying Goldberg. (Leavitt: “arguably no one in the media who loves manufacturing and pushing hoaxes more than Jeffrey Goldberg.” Trump: “The guy is a total sleazebag.” Hegseth: “a deceitful and highly discredited so-called journalist who’s made a profession of peddling hoaxes time and time again”.) Goldberg’s transcript is either accurate or it’s not. If it’s not, other participants can release their own records. But they haven’t. So we can assume Goldberg’s reporting here is accurate, independent of what you think of the rest of his career. (Personally, I respect him as a journalist.)

How did this happen? The larger wrong — discussing an ongoing attack on an insecure platform — happened because the Trump administration is full of people who don’t take security seriously. Many of them — Hegseth in particular — are totally unqualified for their jobs. (Whenever the administration talks about “merit” as opposed to DEI, I think of Hegseth. Only a White man could ever get such an important job with such a flimsy resume and so many red flags in his personal life. Hegseth is a walking advertisement for why DEI is necessary.)

But none of that explains how Goldberg wound up on the chat. If we believe Goldberg’s account, it was a two-part process. First Mike Waltz (or somebody with access to Waltz’ Signal account) made a connection with Goldberg. Then two days later Goldberg was invited to join the Houthi PC small group. So it’s not just somebody hitting Goldberg’s number by fat-fingering a list. (That explanation would be more convincing if some “Johnny Goldsmith” should have been in the group and wasn’t. But I have heard no suggestion of who that person might be. And doesn’t anybody double-check lists with national security implications?)

The explanation (offered by Waltz) that Goldberg may have hacked his way onto the chat group is not only unlikely, but is damning in a different way. It’s bad enough to think that Trump officials are relying on an app that Russian or Chinese intelligence agencies might hack. But magazine editors?

Lacking any other explanation, I’m driven to a conspiracy theory formulated by former West Point history professor Terrence Goggin: “a highly effective cell operating deep in the Pentagon and National Security Council” that Goggin dubs “Deep Throat 2.0”. (Waltz denied this: “A staffer wasn’t responsible.”)

Goggin connects the Signal story with another leak that embarrassed the Trump defense establishment: The NYT finding out that Elon Musk was about to get a briefing on the Pentagon’s plans for a war with China.

Someone contacted the New York Times with a copy of a written order to brief Musk on the Operational Plan to oppose a massive invasion of Taiwan by the People’s Liberation Army Navy (“PLAN”). … Someone transmitted the written order instructing the Joint Chiefs to brief Musk to the New York Times, 12 hours before the briefing was to take place, in order for this to reach its 10 million digital subscribers worldwide. … The leak was timed for a last minute shock without warning, for maximum public damage and embarrassment. This was not an accident, but a deadly strike.

Adding Goldberg to the Houthi PC small group was similarly “not a mistake” but “a well planed clandestine operation”.

Clearly rattled, President Trump declared today that the uproar is a “Witch Hunt”. Actually he may be right. But the witches are His Own Men! It is a planned and organized operation to destroy his ability to govern with unqualified and deficient officials using and exposing his Administration’s own national security mistakes to do so.

Imagine that you’re a career staffer at the Pentagon. You’ve seen people live and die by the book, and now a bunch of yahoos who can’t be bothered to take even minimal security precautions are in charge. You’ve tried to impress on them the reasons for doing things in the standard way, but they always think they know better.

What better way to get your point across than to let the public see what’s happening?

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  • Unknown's avatar Anonymous  On March 31, 2025 at 9:26 am

    A different theory I’ve heard a lot: It was an attempt to set up Goldberg. The Atlantic and Goldberg are among Trump’s most respected opponents. If he published the story without being extremely careful about how he got it (such as if he cited “an anonymous source” or something), they could charge him with hacking the meeting and destroy him and The Atlantic, a gigantic win for Trump with Goldberg ending up in jail for many years.

    Or, a more benign theory: Someone calling the meeting thought Goldberg (famously a Middle East hawk) would be so impressed by the macho military resolution and boldness displayed he would give the mission favorable coverage. They really do seem to be that sure of themselves.

  • mikelabonte's avatar mikelabonte  On March 31, 2025 at 10:09 am

    I’m troubled by the disparaging effect of the story on Signal. For those of us without access to SCIFs and government-developed means to communicate that are more secure, Signal remains the most secure way to communicate.

    Anything the government uses is constantly being exploited, but they can’t talk about that. Any method they use runs into the dilemma of needing to be secure yet archived. For real security you meet face to face in a SCIF, or you just don’t communicate.

    Signal pushed out an update to guard against the linked devices exploit when it was revealed earlier this year. A hacker would use their own Signal app to show a QR code, which they screen grab and send to the target person, asking them to scan it in Signal. But it has to be scanned in Linked Devices mode under Settings.

    I tried it out, and I think a person would have to be pretty clueless to fall for the scam. But hmm, maybe I should send a QR code to Pete Hegseth …

    • Geoff Arnold's avatar Geoff Arnold  On March 31, 2025 at 11:17 am

      Signal is relatively secure, but it’s still only as secure as the device it’s running on. We should assume that the Bad Guys™️ have hacked the personal devices of Hegseth, Waltz, and Vance. Of course, nobody should have been using personal devices, but what else can you expect from these idiots?

      And for anyone who still thinks that you need physical access to a device to hack it, I recommend starting with this demonstration.

  • Geoff Arnold's avatar Geoff Arnold  On March 31, 2025 at 11:09 am

    How did Goldberg wind up on the chat? Most convincing explanation I’ve seen is that the intended invitee was Jamieson Greer. US Trade Representative. (He could have been useful in discussing the impact of Houthi actions in the Red Sea on US vs EU trade.) And if both Goldberg and Greer were in Waltz’s address book, the entries were probably adjacent. (Or both had the same shortcut “JG“.)

    Much more likely than any conspiracy…

    • Unknown's avatar Anonymous  On March 31, 2025 at 5:24 pm

      Does Jamieson Greer have a security clearance?

      • Geoff Arnold's avatar Geoff Arnold  On March 31, 2025 at 7:35 pm

        I think all Cabinet members are supposed to have Top Secret clearance. Of course with this crowd, who knows?

    • Unknown's avatar Anonymous  On March 31, 2025 at 7:11 pm

      Or, Waltz meant to invite Trump fluffer Jonah Goldberg.

      • Geoff Arnold's avatar Geoff Arnold  On March 31, 2025 at 7:36 pm

        Nope. The Greer explanation has been confirmed by several source I trust.

    • Unknown's avatar Anonymous  On April 6, 2025 at 9:51 pm

      There’s zero evidence for this. Nothing that’s been made public suggests there was any policy discussion, and at no point did anyone ask what the U.S. Trade Representative thought about a military mission. Instead, the discussion was pretty much just a swinging dick exercise of blowing bad guys up.

      Moreover, Waltz has had plenty of opportunity to explain away what he did by saying he meant Greer, but fat-fingered Goldberg, an explanation that would serve as both plausible and understandable, if still not excusable. But he’s never done that.

      Finally, this doesn’t explain why Goldberg received the initial invitation to Waltz’ Signal contact list just three days prior to being included in this group. That would be a helluva coincidence – to be intentionally invited by Waltz for no apparent reason whatsoever, not even a “let’s keep in contact” message, and then ‘accidently’ being included in the specific group instead of the intended participant who happened to have the same initials, but who was never called on or even had his area of subject matter discussed.

      OTOH, a third-party taking control of Waltz’ personal phone after learning that senior military and intelligence officials were using insecure personal devices to evade record keeping requirements and executing commands Waltz, himself, wouldn’t notice unless he went looking for the results, is markedly more plausible. And now that the head of U.S. Cyber Command has been fired, it would seem that there’s some smoke here. At least enough to cause the paranoid whack-job, mentality unhinged Loomer to convince an equally incompetent mob-boss that an inside purge was needed to keep this kind of stuff from happening again.

      If anything, it sounds like people pushing this “Greer” explanation (which hasn’t received any mainstream coverage) are attempting to divert attention away from what really happened, whether that’s Waltz, himself, trying to be some sort of double agent and winding up outed because Goldberg revealed his inclusion, or a group inside the military who vehemently objects to the attack on our nation’s Constitutionally order by the current administration and has the means to disrupt it.

  • Mad About Books's avatar Mad About Books  On March 31, 2025 at 11:24 am

    The idea of Deep Throat 2.0 hadn’t occurred to me, but it certainly does make sense. As always, this post is well reasoned and well written. I learned a couple of things of which I was not previously aware.

    A funny anecdote: this past weekend, there was a community yard sale where I live. A chatty woman, about my age, came up to tell us that at the end of the specified yard sale time, AmVets would be sending a truck to collect donations from what had not been sold by residents. I mentioned that I am a vet (Vietnam Era, USAF, WAF). She said to me that I must ‘love the new Sec’y of Defense.’ I said no, I did not. My husband, who is privy to my tirades at the TV, wondered what would happen next. As the woman explained to me that he had promised to behave himself so he must be doing just that, I listened. When she finished, I summed it up as “once a drunk, always a drunk.” My husband later commented to me on my restraint.

    Pete Hegseth and the rest of the equally unqualified members of the current administration are turning the United States into an unrecognizable shadow of itself.

  • Corey Fisher's avatar Corey Fisher  On March 31, 2025 at 11:29 am

    One theory I heard from, as I recall, Belle of the Ranch – The person doing the adding was supposed to include someone from the Navy, specifically a part Trump’s been trying to rename the Atlantic fleet. When doing so, they added someone from their contacts… who was labeled merely as “Atlantic Chief”. Believing that this was the correct person, without ever checking.

  • David Goldfarb's avatar David Goldfarb  On March 31, 2025 at 11:35 am

    One other thing that you don’t seem to mention: the group chat includes jubilation over the successful targeting of a civilian apartment building to get at a Houthis leader inside it — a war crime, forbidden by the Geneva Conventions.

  • Ed Blanchard's avatar Ed Blanchard  On March 31, 2025 at 12:14 pm

    What does this white house boondoggle say about those congressmen and women who did their “so-called homework” about Hegseth and other cabinet postings, when they voted “Aye”?

    Why hasn’t the House Committee on Armed Services already opened an investigation to perform a thorough finding of facts by interviewing those involved sworn testimony?

    I demand these public servants be held accountable for their dereliction of duty. Let’s see how Hegseth and others who have in the past taken an oath to

    “…solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic…”

    Explain all of this.

  • Unknown's avatar Anonymous  On March 31, 2025 at 12:15 pm

    What does this white house boondoggle say about those congressmen and women who did their “so-called homework” about Hegseth and other cabinet postings, when they voted “Aye”?

    Why hasn’t the House Committee on Armed Services already opened an investigation to perform a thorough finding of facts by interviewing those involved sworn testimony?

    I demand these public servants be held accountable for their dereliction of duty. Let’s see how Hegseth and others who have in the past taken an oath to

    “…solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic…”

    Explain all of this.

  • Unknown's avatar Anonymous  On March 31, 2025 at 1:59 pm

    I think there’s another plausible explanation… what if at some point Waltz had asked a staffer to get him the number of a high-ranking Trump official, and as a prank, they gave him Goldberg’s number instead?

    As satisfying as the “mastermind leaker” explanation might be, dumb-prank-gone-wrong seems equally likely to me.

  • Alpha 1's avatar Alpha 1  On March 31, 2025 at 4:18 pm

    The actual scandal here is that the Trump administration is continuing the Biden administration’s inept, flailing war with Yemen. Unsurprisingly, they’re failing to reopen the Red Sea just as badly as their predecessors. For over a year a US Navy carrier group, a floating Aquila, has been shown to be powerless to protect the trade routes against a bunch of Yemeni hillbillies. And protecting trade routes is supposed to be the US Navy’s main job! Even worse for liberals who pride themselves on being rule-followers, this has all been done without congressional approval, so the whole war is illegal too.

    Acknowledging this means confronting both the unchecked power of the American executive and the limits of American military might. Checking the executive would first require American liberals to acknowledge that this illegal war began under Biden, which I don’t think they can stomach. And judging by their refusal to acknowledge the war with Yemen under Biden, I don’t think that American liberals even want to conceptualize defeat anymore. Instead they have to focus on the fact that the war is being run in a slightly more embarrassing manner than it was under Biden.

    • Alpha 1's avatar Alpha 1  On March 31, 2025 at 4:22 pm

      And let’s be clear: the war with Yemen was really, really embarrassing under Biden. Biden admitted that the navy was completely impotent to stop Ansarallah less than a month into it, but doubled down on his failure anyways!

      Speaking after the US strikes, Mr Biden was asked by reporters in Washington DC if the attacks on Houthi targets were working.

      “Well, when you say working are they stopping the Houthis? No,” he said.

      “Are they gonna continue? Yes.”

      The fact that Trump’s minions found a way to be even more pathetic and embarrassing than Biden is… it’s certainly something.

    • Unknown's avatar Anonymous  On April 6, 2025 at 10:10 pm

      There’s no war with Yemen. And, while it’s always been difficult to eliminate Iranian-sponsored piracy, especially since private shipping companies have been paying protection money to Houthi leadership, which helps keep them in business, efforts to protect Suez-bound shipping is better than simply allowing the pirates free-reign over the Red Sea.

      It’s easy to be an absolutist criticizing the lack of perfection by pretty much everyone. It’s much harder (which is why we haven’t seen any from you) to present well-considered options that dwell in the world as it exists.

  • Unknown's avatar Anonymous  On March 31, 2025 at 7:14 pm

    Imagine the Republican reaction if this had happened during the Biden administration.

    • Unknown's avatar Anonymous  On April 6, 2025 at 10:02 pm

      Imagine if any of what’s gone on so far in this administration had happened under Obama, the POTUS who actually accomplished the original mission of Afghanistan of finding and eliminating OBL.

      The lack of even the most minimal standards and the limitless hypocrisy of Republicans are their defining characteristics.

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