Couches, cat ladies, and J. D. Vance

Trump’s VP pick has had an inauspicious debut.

Let me say this right up front: In no part of Hillbilly Elegy did J. D. Vance confess to having sex with a couch. In fact, we have no reliable reports of Vance sexually abusing any piece of furniture. Ever. He has not been banned from Ikea. The clip of him singing a love song to a couch is fake; the lip movements don’t even match the audio. If you search on the #CouchHumper hashtag, all you’ll get is misinformation. Are we clear on that?

But somehow this week the mythical Vance/couch tryst became one of the funniest examples in the history of framing. It started on social media, with a tweet providing exact page numbers for the confessional excerpt. If you didn’t happen to have a copy of Hillbilly Elegy handy, how could you check? Surely nobody would just make something like that up, would they? [1]

Largely because of that specific referencing, the rumor began to take off — I even believed it myself at first — to the point that it needed to be debunked. So AP published a fact-check (since removed) which it headlined: “No, JD Vance did not have sex with a couch.”

As any fan of George Lakoff knows, the first law of debunking misinformation is: Don’t put the lie in the headline. The reasoning is simple: Directly negating a frame invokes the frame. In Lakoff’s famous example, “Don’t think of an elephant” invariably makes you think of an elephant. Until this week, the most famous real-life violation of Lakoff’s rule was Richard Nixon’s immortal denial “I’m not a crook.” If you had never before considered whether Nixon might be a crook, you did then.

Well, lots of people who don’t delve deeply into social media, and so hadn’t heard the rumor at all, do read AP headlines. And they immediately thought: J. D. Vance? A couch? What’s up with that? And then, even though they didn’t have time to read the article, they wondered what exactly was wrong about the rumor. Did Vance just flirt with the couch? Did the couch misinterpret his intentions? Maybe he was napping on the couch and had a wet dream. That’s embarrassing, but it’s innocent; it could happen to any young man.

A few people who made the early couch memes may have believed the claim was true, but before long everybody knew it was invented. And yet the jokes just kept rolling in a tone of OK-it’s-false-but-I’m-having-too-much-fun. [2]

I am still looking for a social psychologist who can explain why this has been so enjoyable. But in the meantime I’ll take a stab at it. I think the message here is: “See? We can lie too.”

Democrats are sick to death of Trump and his minions pushing lies that they know are lies, like that the 2020 election was stolen, or Kamala isn’t a citizen, or Democrats support murdering babies after they’re born, or other countries have sent their prison population to the US, and hundreds of others. Mike Johnson is a lawyer, so he has to know that his Harris-will-have-trouble-getting-on-the-ballot claims are bogus, but he makes them anyway.

We’re sick to death of answering stuff like that with facts, only to watch the lie propagate in spite of the facts. So you want to lie? Fine. Our lie is funnier and more viral than yours.

I’ll be interested to see whether people start consciously using it that way, responding to right-wing BS with Vance-and-the-couch claims, and, when challenged, saying, “Oh, I thought you had started a lying contest.”


Another reason we’re all being so merciless with the couch jokes is that other stuff emerged this week: stuff Vance really did say that personally insulted millions of us, and left us feeling like “I dare you to say that to my face, you couch-humper.”

In one, he disparaged women who decide not to have children (like my wife) as

childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices that they’ve made and so they want to make the rest of the country miserable, too

In another, he proposed that people without children (like me) should have less voting power than parents, because we “don’t have as much of an investment in the future of this country”.

How does it make any sense that we’ve turned our country over to people who don’t really have a direct stake in it?

Wow. What a judgmental, clueless thing to say. J. D. Vance has never met me, but he’s sure that I don’t care about the future, that I couldn’t possibly care like he does, because my only connection to the future is through my sister’s kids and grandkids, the children of my close friends, the kids in my church community, the students I’ve taught, the coworkers I’ve mentored, and my membership in the human race. Kamala Harris is even a stepmother to her husband’s children, but she’s one of the childless cat ladies Vance called out by name. Apparently, step-parenting doesn’t count either.

Another childless person he called out by name was Pete Buttigieg, whose adopted twins are nearly three now. But at the time

Chasten and I had been through a fairly heartbreaking setback in our adoption journey. He couldn’t have known that, but maybe that’s why you shouldn’t be talking about other people’s children. [3]

In an interview Sunday with Jen Psaki, Pete offered a more abstract perspective on Vance’s attitude.

He seems to view everything in terms of the negative. … I think a lot of us who have had kids would certainly say that that experience opens you to a new way of thinking about the world. But he doesn’t talk about it in those terms. He talks about how anybody who doesn’t have kids is less than, that their perspectives have less value, which is a really strange take.

Precisely. If Vance wants to wax poetic about how parenthood has changed him for the better, I’m happy for him. But if he wants to project onto me the benighted mindset he had before becoming a father, or (based on that projection) assign me a correspondingly lesser role in the nation we share, I’ve got a problem with that.

And let’s be clear: Projection is the key concept here. Vance’s attack is actually a confession. He doesn’t care about the future beyond how it affects his own biological descendants. Caring about other people’s kids, or about your community more broadly, is so foreign to him that he can’t even imagine how people like me can do it.

Such a me-and-mine worldview perfectly explains his position on climate change. If he can leave his own children well fixed by selling out to fossil fuel companies, that sounds pretty good to him, even if it condemns everyone else’s kids to an apocalyptic hellscape.

His attempts to clean this up only doubled down.

I’ve got nothing against cats. I’ve got nothing against dogs. … People are focusing so much on the sarcasm and not on the substance of what I said, and the substance of what I said, Megyn, I’m sorry, it’s true.

But he wasn’t being “sarcastic”. He was being an asshole. He has ignorantly insulted me and millions of people like me, and when it was pointed out to him, he wouldn’t apologize. So the insult stands.

Do you want an asshole to be vice president of United States?


But OK, let’s put aside the insults and assholery and look at what Vance was proposing, which is — let’s face it — just a dumb unworkable idea: Children get votes, which their parents get to cast. So if Mom and Dad disagree — it is OK for a woman to disagree with her husband, isn’t it? — which one gets to cast the kids’ votes? If Mom and Dad separate with joint custody, where do the votes go? And think about those stereotypic welfare moms that Republicans love to scapegoat, the ones who keep having kids just to get more welfare. Do they get extra votes? If I’m an undocumented immigrant, but my “anchor baby” is an American citizen, can I cast her vote?

The whole idea is stupid. Clearly Vance just says stuff without thinking it through.


Minnesota Governor Tim Walz burnished his Harris-VP credentials by applying a term that has stuck: weird. If you want to say that Vance’s ideas are scary or stupid, I can’t argue with you. But the main thing they are is weird. Here’s an example of the far-out scenarios that hatch in Vance’s mind, and the kinds of things he justifies with these bizarre fantasies. [4]

Let’s say Roe v Wade is overruled. Ohio bans abortion … let’s say in 2024. And then every day, George Soros sends a 747 to Columbus to load up disproportionately Black women to get them to go have abortions in California. … And if that happens, do you need some federal response to prevent it from happening? … I’m pretty sympathetic to that actually.

Federal response like what exactly? Banning pregnant women from crossing state lines? Making women take pregnancy tests before getting on interstate flights? What? Suppose a pregnant Ohio State student flies home to California for Thanksgiving and miscarries while she’s there. How can she prove she didn’t get an abortion? What happens to her?

I’m sure Vance’s musings would sound perfectly normal in the Republic of Gilead. But not here. In America, they’re weird.


[1] Apparently, people have been making stuff like this up for a long time. In Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail, Hunter S. Thompson told this story about Lyndon Johnson.

The race was close and Johnson was getting worried.  Finally he told his campaign manager to start a massive rumor campaign about his opponent’s life-long habit of enjoying carnal knowledge of his own barnyard sows.

“Christ, we can’t get a way with calling him a pig-fucker,” the campaign manager protested.  “Nobody’s going to believe a thing like that.”

“I know,” Johnson replied.  “But let’s make the sonofabitch deny it.”

[2] Rep. Jack Kimble is often amusing, but he’s not a real congressman. California’s 54th district does not exist.

[3] Pete is being generous. Yes, Vance couldn’t have known at the time that Buttigieg and his husband were having trouble adopting. But he knows now, and hasn’t offered any kind of apology.

I haven’t found any direct statement of Vance’s views on same-sex marriage, or adoptions by same-sex couples, but he opposed the Respect for Marriage Act that would have codified marital rights for same-sex couples, and many of his “pro-family” statements use phrases that are also used by anti-gay hate groups. So it’s possible, even likely, that Vance not only thinks Pete should have second-class citizenship, but that he opposes any attempt by gays and lesbians to qualify for first-class citizenship by getting married and adopting children.

[4] Lots of Republican proposals are justified by similarly bizarre fantasies. We have to ban late-term abortions, for example, because of the possibility that some woman might carry a healthy fetus for nearly nine months, and then choose an abortion at the last minute on a whim. Who does that?

Or we need to ban trans athletes from high school and college sports, because women’s programs could be overrun by men pretending to be women. How many trans athletes do they think are out there? Are they dominating any sport? Is any women’s program in America being overrun by them? Can Republicans name even one trans athlete whose motivation is anything like what they’ve described?

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  • Unknown's avatar Anonymous  On July 29, 2024 at 9:31 am

    Biden-Kamala has nothing good to show after 3 years in office and therefore nothing believable to tell about the future you babble silly childish stuff about sofas.

    Kamala has lived a life at taxpayers expense with nothing good to show for it while the Vance guy served in marines

    • pauljbradford's avatar pauljbradford  On July 29, 2024 at 9:56 am

      Biden rallied NATO support for Ukraine. Biden pushed through major legislation that has helped US consumers and manufacturing:

      American Rescue Plan,

      Bipartisan Infrastructure Law

      Inflation Reduction Act

      CHIPS Act

      Respect for Marriage Act

      In all his years in office, the only major legislation for Trump is the 2017 tax bill that was a giveaway to corporations and rich people like himself. Trump kept talking about infrastructure but never got a bill passed – Biden did it during his first year in office.

    • Unknown's avatar Anonymous  On July 29, 2024 at 11:36 am

      I’ve got news for you: Vance “serving in the Marines” is just as much “at taxpayer’s expense” as serving as Harris serving as Attorney General of California or US Senator or Vice President. Let’s just say they each have devoted time to public service.

      Instead, let’s look at the parasite Donald Trump, who makes his money by not paying small contractors who have done work for him, ripping off people who signed up for his fake university, running fake charities, stealing from the government, and generally defrauding the American public for his personal profit. (that’s not even getting into his lifetime of being a serial sexual predator.) After a life of being an actual parasite, why (by your definition) would Trump decide to spend the rest of his life “at taxpayer expense” by running for the presidency?

    • Alpha 1's avatar Alpha 1  On July 29, 2024 at 2:16 pm

      I can think of no worse indictment of Vance’s judgement then the fact he joined the marines. He signed up to endure incredible hardship and risk horrific death for a government that won’t even keep its soldiers’ families fed. It makes him a sucker and a loser, like everyone else who joins the American military.

    • Unknown's avatar Anonymous  On August 3, 2024 at 12:53 am

      Don’t feed the trolls.

  • Roger's avatar Roger  On July 29, 2024 at 9:51 am

    My daughter was explaining to my wife (who is not on social media) how clickbaity (?) Vance’s love of sofas is. Most people know it’s a lie, but he’s such, in your word, “an asshole” over what he HAS said (cat ladies, and that weird defense of his wife – https://www.yahoo.com/news/jd-vance-acknowledges-white-supremacist-200646486.html) that our schadenfreude has kicked up to 11.

  • Unknown's avatar Anonymous  On July 29, 2024 at 10:01 am

    Picture of Vance, soundtrack of Marvin Gaye singing about “sectional healing.” Made my day.

  • Anonymous Poster's avatar Anonymous Poster  On July 29, 2024 at 10:10 am

    And that’s not even getting into the dolphin thing!

  • Unknown's avatar Anonymous  On July 29, 2024 at 10:20 am

    I think this is 100% accurate:

    “And let’s be clear: Projection is the key concept here. Vance’s attack is actually a confession. He doesn’t care about the future beyond how it affects his own biological descendants. Caring about other people’s kids, or about your community more broadly, is so foreign to him that he can’t even imagine how people like me can do it.”

    And it’s also what connects him to Trump and the conservatives. They are all decent, moral people in the sense that they would never violate their own moral code – but they have a different morality that comes out of traditional clan-like, tribal systems. As George Lakoff would say, in Strict Father morality, having children is an obligation, not a choice. So from their perspective, childless couples are just as “immoral” as gay couples who are just as immoral as single adults. You are either “normal,” meaning that you marry and have kids when you become an adult, or you aren’t.

    And from this perspective, having compassion means feeling sorry for married couples who can’t have children, but feeling no empathy for those who don’t want them. This is why I think Vance is always quick to clarify that he’s pro-IVF. From their perspective, it would be immoral to deny couples the ability to be “moral” and “normal” just because of a biological problem.

  • Unknown's avatar Anonymous  On July 29, 2024 at 12:27 pm

    I hadn’t heard the Vance/couch thing until I read this post, but the Rep. Kimble post is hilarious.

  • Bill Camarda's avatar Bill Camarda  On July 29, 2024 at 1:38 pm

    Well, there’s also the “I can see Russia from my house” meme that everyone thinks Sarah Palin actually said, when it was Tina-Fey-as-Sarah-Palin on Saturday Night Live.

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sarah-palin-russia-house/

  • Alpha 1's avatar Alpha 1  On July 29, 2024 at 2:10 pm

    Trump is going to put Don Jr. in the brazen bull for talking him into choosing Vance.

  • Unknown's avatar Anonymous  On July 29, 2024 at 3:30 pm

    Yes, the votes for children idea is unworkable for many reasons. But it is interesting to contemplate what would happen if the parents of minor children were to get more votes. And it’s mostly good. We would suddenly have a great deal more support for affordable child care, universal Pre-K, sufficient funding for public schools, better school breakfast and lunch, etc.

    • pauljbradford's avatar pauljbradford  On July 29, 2024 at 6:24 pm

      For Republican parents, it’s more support for siphoning public dollars away from public schools to give to religious schools. Christian religious schools, of course, not madrasas.

  • Unknown's avatar Anonymous  On July 29, 2024 at 4:34 pm

    FINALLY the Democrats are fighting fire with fire, and it has shocked the Republicans. Let the framing begin! I have been frustrated at the Democrats since 2015 for not reading Lakoff!

  • Unknown's avatar Anonymous  On July 29, 2024 at 4:38 pm

    “Children get votes, which their parents get to cast.”

    Most of your questions go away if you assume that Vance really means “fathers,” not “parents.”

  • Unknown's avatar Anonymous  On July 30, 2024 at 9:16 am

    Republicans hate women. Republicans hate America. Republicans are creeps who yearn to round-up and murder millions of people.

  • Unknown's avatar Anonymous  On July 30, 2024 at 9:28 am

    The more votes if you have kids idea didn’t originate with Vance. I heard it from a co-worker ten years ago.

  • kimc0240's avatar kimc0240  On August 2, 2024 at 4:42 am

    the word “Vance” in Yiddish means pest or bedbug.

    • Unknown's avatar Anonymous  On August 2, 2024 at 10:10 am

      I’m looking forward to a new round of jokes!

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